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The State of Maine does not license firearms. You may transport your
firearm in Maine as you stated and good luck in your contest.

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Sedstar , These cats expect normal citizens to show up... Now they are gonna request full bathing rituals and Be groomed and shaven...LMAO

heck, my state would likely PAY you to get me out of my own state, and give you a bonus if you KEEP me, lmao.

honestly, the nipple dance is a real classic.

well groomed? I might have to wear bunny ears, lmao.

so...whast this contest with handguns? or is that just scuttlebutt so's we can all shoot once were up there? I aint gonna win any medals with a handgun, thats for sure.

Aw, i doubt i'll make it up, but i'll try. Depends how many financial catastrophes I have to endure between now and then.

"Formal" also means, shoes, shirts, dresses, skirts, kilts or Pants required!

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Originally posted by Clayt:
"Formal" also means, shoes, shirts, dresses, skirts, kilts or Pants required!

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Sed,
I don't see bunny ears mentioned at all.

Sedstar,

Bunny ears, Rabbit season is still in around here.. That would be like wearing your rattling antlers on your heaed for deer season in my neck of the woods..

I can pick you up on the way through... Maybe the wife will let me go out and play...LOL I can just see us ridding through the country, 2 rednecks in a 4-wheel drive , Rough looking , mean , guns hanging from the rack.......... Wearing Bunny Ears....LMAO Now that would be funny...

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HEAD SHOTS DON'T LEAVE BLOOD TRAILS ! Rob

Sed,
If Rob isn't able to go and you can get to NY, you can hitch a ride with me. I'm about an hour from North Eastern PA.

This is for NY State only, however, with NY being very stringent regarding gun laws, I would think that other State laws would be similar, or less strict. You should check with the laws of each State that you would be driving through or staying overnight in to make sure.

Perhaps Mike Gross would care to share his legal interpretation of the following laws:

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§ 10-305 Exemptions. The sections requiring rifle and shotgun permits
and certificates and prohibiting the possession or disposition of
assault weapons shall not apply as follows:

i. (1) Non-residents in transit. Any other provision of this chapter
to the contrary notwithstanding, a non-resident of the city of New York
who, without a rifle and shotgun permit issued hereunder, enters the
city of New York possessing a rifle or shotgun in the course of transit
to a destination outside the city of New York, or a non-resident of the
city of New York who enters the city of New York possessing an assault
weapon in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New
York, shall have a period of twenty-four hours subsequent to such
entering to be exempt from penalty under this chapter for the unlawful
possession of a rifle, shotgun or assault weapon, provided that such
rifle, shotgun or assault weapon shall at all times be unloaded and in a
locked case, or locked automobile trunk, and that said non-resident is
lawfully in possession of said rifle, shotgun or assault weapon
according to the laws of his or her place of residence.

§ 265.20 Exemptions.
a. Sections 265.01, 265.02, 265.03, 265.04, 265.05, 265.10, 265.11,
265.12, 265.13, 265.15 and 270.05 shall not apply to:

13. Possession of pistols and revolvers by a person who is a
nonresident of this state while attending or traveling to or from, an
organized competitive pistol match or league competition under auspices
of, or approved by, the National Rifle Association and in which he is a
competitor, within forty-eight hours of such event or by a person who is
a non-resident of the state while attending or traveling to or from an
organized match sanctioned by the International Handgun Metallic
Silhouette Association and in which he is a competitor, within
forty-eight hours of such event, provided that he has not been
previously convicted of a felony or a crime which, if committed in New
York, would constitute a felony, and further provided that the pistols
or revolvers are transported unloaded in a locked opaque container
together with a copy of the match program, match schedule or match
registration card. Such documentation shall constitute prima facie
evidence of exemption, providing that such person also has in his
possession a pistol license or firearms registration card issued in
accordance with the laws of his place of residence. For purposes of this
subdivision, a person licensed in a jurisdiction which does not
authorize such license by a person who has been previously convicted of
a felony shall be presumed to have no prior conviction. The
superintendent of state police shall annually review the laws of
jurisdictions within the United States and Canada with respect to the
applicable requirements for licensing or registration of firearms and
shall publish a list of those jurisdictions which prohibit possession of
a firearm by a person previously convicted of a felony or crimes which
if committed in New York state would constitute a felony.
13-a. Except in cities not wholly contained within a single county of
the state, possession of pistols and revolvers by a person who is a
nonresident of this state while attending or traveling to or from, an
organized convention or exhibition for the display of or education about
firearms, which is conducted under auspices of, or approved by, the
National Rifle Association and in which he is a registered participant,
within forty-eight hours of such event, provided that he has not been
previously convicted of a felony or a crime which, if committed in New
York, would constitute a felony, and further provided that the pistols
or revolvers are transported unloaded in a locked opaque container
together with a copy of the convention or exhibition program, convention
or exhibition schedule or convention or exhibition registration card.
Such documentation shall constitute prima facie evidence of exemption,
providing that such person also has in his possession a pistol license
or firearms registration card issued in accordance with the laws of his
place of residence. For purposes of this paragraph, a person licensed in
a jurisdiction which does not authorize such license by a person who has
been previously convicted of a felony shall be presumed to have no prior
conviction. The superintendent of state police shall annually review the
laws of jurisdictions within the United States and Canada with respect
to the applicable requirements for licensing or registration of firearms
and shall publish a list of those jurisdictions which prohibit
possession of a firearm by a person previously convicted of a felony or
crimes which if committed in New York state would constitute a felony.

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To get a NYC CCW permit was nearly impossible prior to 9/11. Now NYC only issues "premise" permits to NYC residents only. On top of that, they are charging $340 for the permit, which is only good for 3 years.

The argument about storing the firearms in a trunk came up many times, and by many people, who did not have a trunk such as pickups, vans, and SUV's. More or less they want the firearm secured in a locked case and separated from the ammunition. All I plan on doing is putting my rifles in a rifle case, the handguns in my range bag, and the ammunition in a similar bag with a cable tie through the zipper so it cannot be easily opened.

You are correct, the NYC permit is completely different and they are no longer issuing any concealed carry permits. I also have a NY State issued CCW that has no expiration. However, in 2004, Gov. Pataki tried to introduce a 5-year renewable CCW permit, which luckily was turned down. (Times Herald Record Article)

Nassau, Suffolk, and I believe Westchester Counties are also different. Nassau County has a 5-year expiration on their CCW's with a $200 renewal fee. I believe that Suffolk County is also 5-year but I'm not sure on the fee.

That might be true but NYC is an entity to themselves and they do what they want to do regardless. I'm glad I don't have to deal with NYC at all. Another example of that is about 10 years ago, the Suffolk County Legislature did away with the "rubber stamp" on CCW's. This rubber stamp was the Counties way to put a restriction on a NY State issued CCW. The stamp said something like, "For Target and Hunting Only".

Even though the rubber stamp law was abolished, the Suffolk Chief of Police (who issued the CCW's in that County) did not recognize it and continued to put restrictions on CCW's. I don't know if the rubber stamp was ever removed or not as I no longer live on Long Island.

Regarding Nassau County, the CCW application is pretty much the same, as is the requirements. However, in an effort to make obtaining a CCW even more difficult, they increased the fee to $200. When I had my Nassau CCW, the fee was only $40. Here in Orange County, the same fee is $10 and that's for a permit that doesn't have an expiration!

Front of New CCW (actual permit is white)

Back of New CCW

I hope that the proposed "CCW Renewal" Bill never goes through. The Government gets enough of my money. The $200 fee was for Nassau County only. The proposed NY State fee was for $100. Both of them were for 5-year renewals.

states and cities... NYC,like Phila, is a "class somethign or other" city, basically once a city gets a certain size, pistols and gun stuff gets "hairy and iffy". I guss theres no "byoass route", eh?

Man, I can picture being in NYC, getting pulled over for a flickering taillight, and the ensuing mess being time consuming and costly. Theres gotta be some way we can print up somethign that at least LOOKS "credentialed" and "official". I guess we'll be talking about this periodically until it happens.

I am known for being rather generous with gas money when i tag along, I aint a mooch. I must admit, I wonder what going along with RodDW would be like, two rednecks in a pick up and all, hee hee. The other option, meeting greg where he suggested, The drive to my old lady's place, if I do "that drive again" I can be in NYC, thats only a little further.

This might be possible.

I guess that you are in the western part of PA and bookins in the Eastern? Man that in itself is one heck of a drive. I drove to Indiana two years ago and thought I'd never get out of PA. LOL

There are several ways around NYC. The only way you can't avoid NYC is if you live in Nassau or Suffolk Counties (Long Island), yet I believe there is a separate exemption for those people with CCW's.

While this wouldn't be a NRA or IHMSA Sanctioned event, it is an organized event nonetheless. Clayt said he could have a flyer made, I'm assuming with his gun club logo making it more official. I'm also a Certified NRA Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor and we could also incorporate that into the event flyer if need be. I'm not sure who else would be going, or if they are a NRA Instructor in any other disciplines, but adding them wouldn't hurt either.

Option 1 - Drive to NY and catch a ride with me.

• East on I-80 -> I-287 North -> Route 17 North -> You're here.
• East on I-84 -> State 17 (Future I-86) East -> Route 17 South -> You're here.

Option 2 - Drive Straight through.

• East on I-80 -> I-287 North -> I-87 North -> I-84 East and straight through NY, CT and into ME.
• East on I-84 and straight through NY, CT and into ME.

Option 3 - For those coming from the South.

• North on I-95 -> I-80 East -> Garden State Parkway North -> I-87 North (I-87 and I-287 are the same road here) -> I-84 East and straight through NY, CT and into ME.
• Avoid during rush-hour times - North on I-95 -> I-80 East -> Garden State Parkway North -> I-87 South -> I-287 East (Cross Westchester Expressway) -> I-95 North (nearly at the CT Border) and straight through CT and into ME.

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I am known for being rather generous with gas money when i tag along, I aint a mooch. I must admit, I wonder what going along with RodDW would be like, two rednecks in a pick up and all, hee hee.

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Oh yeah, Just slide the Piles of empty cases and shotgun shells over.. A bunch of empty Mt. Dew bottles and your in..LMAO I will probably drive KT's car.. or if she will let me..LMAO

Chrysler Sebring ,I believe we can cram Greg in the back if he don't move around to much.. Those Back seats are a wee bit small , But at 85 mph it gets about 25 mp/gallon were in..

Greg if you think it takes forever to get through PA you should drive across Texas and I don't mean the panhandle.

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I believe we can cram Greg in the back if he don't move around to much...

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The wife won't let my take her car and I rather not leave her with my rust-bucket work van to drive the kids around in. I'm going to rent an SUV for the trip. It should be large enough for all the "stuff".

Newton,
When you look at PA on the map its kind of deceiving at first glance. Probably because its much "wider" than it is "tall". Yet, there is nothing deceiving about looking at TX on the map. LOL